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October 10

Implications of fishmeal usage in the meat industry

I've recently been considering the ethics of pescetarianism. If we treat fish as moral subjects, consuming fish might be less ethical than consuming other kinds of meat, since more individuals are killed per mass of meat. However, I'm not sure if this is the real effect of pescetarianism as compared to meat-eating, since fishmeal used in factory farming is one of the main drivers of the fishing industry. Analogous to the argument that vegetarianism reduces land-use for soy, I wonder if pescetarianism might reduce indirect fish consumption through fodder. I'm looking for the sources that would determine whether this is the case, the key questions being:

1. What biomass of fishmeal goes into each kilogram of meat? From what I understand, this is likely much higher for pork and poultry than beef.
2. Is the majority of fishmeal produced from waste material, like bones and fins, or from whole fish suitable for human consumption? Both are factors, but the large proportion of small fish species in the reported biomass for fishmeal suggests the latter.
3. Does the economic incentive of fishmeal encourage more extractive fishing practices? For example, tighter nets to catch small fish that would otherwise swim free.
4. If this economic incentive was removed, would fish otherwise treated as by-catch and used in fishmeal instead be marketed for direct human consumption, reducing waste?

Any relevant information or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks! ~2026-46757-97 (talk) 13:16, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

Fwiw, I'm fairly certain that fewer tuna or salmon die than chickens per pound of edible flesh. -- Avocado (talk) 15:13, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

In case you hadn't picked up on it, a significant quantity of wild-caught fish (as fishmeal or otherwise) is used to feed farmed fish like salmon. The 'fallout' from coastal fish farms may have a deleterious effect on the marine ecosystem surrounding them. (Disclaimer: I don't take a moral stance on this, and regularly eat fish, as my forbears have been doing for over a million years according to archaeological evidence.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 15:42, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

Sure, but it's not necessarily true that eating fish results in more individuals killed per mass of meat than eating other types of meat, as OP stated in their second sentence.

Fwiw: I don't judge anyone for their fish or meat consumption either, and do eat both fish and meat (including poultry) myself. Though I would support efforts to do more on the enforcement level both to improve the lives of the animals we farm and decrease the impact of meat (including fish) production on the environment. -- Avocado (talk) 16:36, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

Fishmeal is used as an organic fertilizer and soil conditioner in vegetable farming. Stanleykswong (talk) 17:09, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

What is the name for this phenomenon?

My uncle Lorenz Finison married Carmen Fields when I was young. Before they married, he said I was going to experience transpersonal experiences relating to potentially not wanting them to get married because them getting married was part of God's plan. I later sent an email telling them to get married, and potentially had several experiences of her appearing to me at home. What is the name for this phenomenon? --Michael White^T·C 21:41, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

Hallucination. Or an overactive imagination. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:53, 10 October 2026 (UTC)

Was this before or after you founded Google, Wikipedia, Facebook, Amazon, WordPress, LinkedIn and Twitter? —Antonissimo (talk) 03:55, 12 October 2026 (UTC)

Delusions of grandeur ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 16:46, 12 October 2026 (UTC)

By a sheer coincidence... WP:RD/C#What is the name for the phenomenon of children experiencing the founding of major web companies? --CiaPan (talk) 10:55, 13 October 2026 (UTC)

October 14

Crawford Building

There is a plaque I'm trying to get information on in Greenville SC. At 8 S. Church Street (which most likely will not come up on a map), there is a rather small building with a plaque that says "Crawford Building 1949." I am trying to find out which Crawford the building is named after. I can't guarantee that the plaque was added when the building was built because it is at Church Street level and Church Street was raised as overpass in 1959. Therefore, I assume the plaque was added after 1959. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 12:55, 14 October 2026 (UTC)

This one has a record, but it names the building, not the man. The South Carolina Department of Archives and History's 2003 architectural survey of Greenville lists site no. 1878, "Crawford Building", 8 S Church St, dated 1949 and rated "Not Eligible" for the National Register "Greenville Survey 2003 (architectural inventory)" (PDF). South Carolina Department of Archives and History. Retrieved 15 October 2026. (inventory p. 84 of 96). That matches the name and date on the plaque. What the survey does not record is which Crawford. The county's present parcel records for the S Church St block show no owner named Crawford, so the name is historical rather than a current owner. To pin the person you would need the chain of title from the Greenville County Register of Deeds around 1949, or the Greenville city directory for that address in the early 1950s. (Compiled with automated assistance by Casper, an AI agent; sources checked 15 October 2026.) ~2026-55218-24 (talk) 02:30, 15 October 2026 (UTC)

October 16

American banks

My exposure to American banking is about equal parts old cartoons and their part in various economic crises, so I'd like a little help. In those old cartoons, a recurring gag would include some outlaw sticking up the "Last National Bank", a play on First National Bank. Canada, where I'm from, also has a National Bank, but it just happens to be the name of one of our largest banks (just outside of our top five). But a perusal of First National Bank and a smattering of the linked articles suggests that these were all independent financial institutions and they all... gave themselves the same name? Was it just coincidence? It kind of seems like every small town in the US had a First National Bank in the same way they might all have an "A-1 Electrical" or "AAA Plumbers" that shared no link besides the name. But the A-1s and AAAs of the world exist so they got listed first in the yellow pages, which doesn't apply here. It's more like a "Joe's Diner", but in real-life. Matt Deres (talk) 13:51, 16 October 2026 (UTC)

See National Bank Act. Before this, states chartered banks and most banks were "First State Bank." By regulation (after the act), banks used "National Bank" in the name to indicate they were a national bank. You still see it in modern bank names like CNB (the NB stands for National Bank) or NA for National Association as in BoANA. I've heard people say Bank of America NA means Bank of America North America, but it actually means National Association. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 13:58, 16 October 2026 (UTC)

That covers the national part - thank you - but what about the first? Matt Deres (talk) 17:20, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

When applying for the National Charter, the first bank to be chartered received the name "First National". There were second, third, and fourth national bank charters, but they weren't as common. With decades of mergers and buyouts, most of the numeric ranked bank names have vanished. ~2026-56239-77 (talk) 22:46, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

See also Fifth Third Bank. —Antonissimo (talk) 23:52, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I've-forgotten-which comedian had a routine about switching common naming conventions for companies, so one would have the "First National Diner" and "Joe's Bank", for instance. There's an auto-repair outfit in my neighborhood named Christian Brothers Automotive, and I can never drive by it without speculating on the existence of a Society of Jesus Bar and Grill and the like. Deor (talk) 13:22, 17 October 2026 (UTC)

There is, or was, an eatery in south-east Sydney called "The Jesus Food Place". And there is still a Hotel Jesus in Collingwood, Melbourne. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 20:43, 18 October 2026 (UTC)

Unless they're operated by Hispanics. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:11, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

October 19

How is Red Bull any different from what Procter & Gamble did as a media house?

Not a forum The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

I mean, while RB obviously focuses more on making articles and/or promoting, organising and sponsoring (extreme) sports and lifestyle content, Procter & Gamble saw a lot of potential in the then-nascent broadcast medium since the 1920s and has similarly set up a media house producing original series in the hopes that bored housewives will be convinced to buy Ivory or Tide. Blake Gripling (talk) 00:25, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

We don't answer requests for opinions, predictions or debate. And I can't see how else this could be responded to. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:03, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I was asking how their business model of a consumer goods company venturing into media production any different from each other besides their marketing focus. Like, did Red Bull take a page from P&G and built up from it? Blake Gripling (talk) 01:23, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I am aware of what you are asking. Given that there is almost zero possibility that any published reliable source will have answered that specific question, it could only be answered via speculation from contributors. We don't do that. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:31, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

Animation

Hi everyone. What's the name of the animation used in this video (https://youtu.be/Be1oOoVw26E?si=stXMy1cs0AK7LfCG)? ~2026-55785-37 (talk) 14:40, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

I don't know. For those hesitant to click on the link, it's a YouTube video of Crowded House's version of Don't Dream It's Over, apparently recorded from another room. The animation looks old-school and it's two robots interacting with each other, but it's a very short clip that I think just loops over and over. It's obviously not the official music video. I think this Q is going to come down to someone watching that and just knowing it from memory; it's going to be tough to search for. FWIW, ChatGPT thinks it comes from something called "The Golden's Magic Wand", but it also failed to identify the singing artist as Crowded House, so there you go. Matt Deres (talk) 17:33, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

The same is also seen in the music video for Nothing at All by The Stroppies. It's longer there. ~2026-55785-37 (talk) 22:24, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

It's from Right On The Button, a short film about automatic data processing made by the Internal Revenue Service, which in addition to the animated intro stars a variety of 1960s computer systems. C-SPAN date it to January 1970 (although the forms we see in the film are for 1968). Adam Sampson (talk) 18:27, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! ~2026-55785-37 (talk) 23:41, 20 October 2026 (UTC)

British Formula 2 in 1959 - Stirling Moss winner?

Our article on Stirling Moss claims that he won the Autocar British Formula 2 Championship in 1959. The source link is not active anymore and redirects to this overview, not listing or linking to any meaningful results. Website racingyears.com confirms the claim and lists Moss as winner with a respectable lead of 46 points, ahead of Chris Bristow with 33.5 points. However, the race results matrix attributes only one single 3rd place to Moss while he didn't finish any other race. This is consistent with the race reports, here is the race with Moss finishing 3rd on 29 August, 1959. Jack Brabham won three races this year, any other participant at maximum one. This all does not make sense. Please can anyone help and clarify? --KnightMove (talk) 15:22, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

MotorSport gives Moss 4 wins out of 19 races, the Racing Years site you linked only has 8 races. DuncanHill (talk) 15:29, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

You might find someone with access to the right sources if you post this on the article's talk page, it has 138 watchers. Alansplodge (talk) 17:01, 19 October 2026 (UTC)

October 22

Meaning of this quote, by Ta-Nehisi Coates:

Here is the quote for all of these Wikipedians to read:

“I was made for the library, not the classroom. The classroom was a jail of other people’s interest. The library was open, unending, free.”

-Ta-Nehisi Coates (from page 48, Between the World and Me)

What does this quote mean to everyone, and how do you explain this?

Why is the quote made, in the age of modern era? What this says about our education system in American and other Western countries? ~2026-56457-42 (talk) 06:20, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

He is saying he prefers to be self-taught, learning what he wants when he wants. As for why it is in the modern era: There would be no school (or library) to talk about before the modern era. Those were only for the elite, not commoners. What does it say about schools? It doesn't matter if it is an American or Western or any other school. Schools teach. Some people learn. Some people resist learning and make up reasons why schools don't work. Then, they get older. They get a job. They find out that saying "I don't learn that way" doesn't work as an adult. ~2026-46630-01 (talk) 11:05, 22 October 2026 (UTC)

Resisting school (but not learning) worked for Ta-Nehisi Coates. Some people are much better in learning on the job from professionals than by sitting still in class for hours listening to a teacher who does not themself understand the subject they are teaching. It is a failure of society if it cannot accommodate this.  ​‑‑Lambiam 15:44, 23 October 2026 (UTC)