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This page provides a place to discuss new items for inclusion on In the news (ITN), a protected template on the Main Page (see past items in the ITN archives). Do not report errors in ITN items that are already on the Main Page here – discuss those at the relevant section of WP:ERRORS.

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Hôtel de Ville the day after the fire
Hôtel de Ville the day after the fire

Glossary

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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
  • Articles in the Ongoing line describe events getting continuous coverage.
  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide that a recent death is important enough to warrant a blurb instead.

All articles featured in the ITN template must pass our standards of review. They should be up-to-date, demonstrate relevance via good sourcing and have at least an acceptable quality.

Nomination steps

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  • Make sure the item you want to nominate has an article that meets our minimum requirements and contains reliable coverage of a current event you want to create a blurb about. We will not post about events described in an article that fails our quality standards.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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Headers

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  • When the article is ready, updated and there is consensus to post, you can mark the item as (Ready). Remove that wording if you feel the article fails any of these necessary criteria.
  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting items marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
    • If satisfied, post the item and change the header to (Posted).
    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).
  • When consensus to post will not be reached, close the discussion section and change the header to (Closed). If the article's quality remains poor, leave a brief note explaining why to encourage and assist others in fixing it.

Voicing an opinion on an item

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Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a rationale for your choice. In particular, address the notability of the event, the quality of the article, and whether it has been updated.

Please do...

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  1. Pick an older item to review near the bottom of this page, before the eligibility runs out and the item scrolls off the page and gets abandoned in the archive, unused and forgotten.
  2. Review an item even if it has already been reviewed by another user. You may be the first to spot a problem, or the first to confirm that an identified problem was fixed. Piling on the list of "support!" votes will help administrators see what is ready to be posted on the Main Page.
  3. Mention problems in articles if you see them. Be bold and fix them yourself if you know how, or tell others if it's not possible or help is needed.

Please do not...

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  1. Add simple "support!" or "oppose!" votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are not helpful. A vote without reasoning means little for us, please explain yourself.
  2. Oppose an item just because the event is or is not related to a particular country. We post a lot of such content, so these comments are generally unproductive.
  3. Accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due to a personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). We at ITN do not handle conflicts of interest.
  4. Comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  5. Oppose a recurring item here because you disagree with its significance. Discuss them here.
  6. Use ITN as a forum for your own political or personal beliefs. Such comments are irrelevant to the outcome and are potentially disruptive.

Suggesting updates

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There are two places where you can request corrections to posted items:

  • Anything that does not change the intent of the blurb (spelling, grammar, markup issues, updating death tolls etc.) should be discussed at WP:Errors.
  • Discuss major changes in the blurb's intent or very complex updates as part of the current ITNC nomination.
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Structure

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This page contains a section for each day and a sub-section for each nomination. Eight days of current nominations are maintained – older days are archived. To see the size and title of each section, please expand the following section size summary.


October 19

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October 18

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2026 Southeast Asian haze

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Article: 2026 Southeast Asian haze (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Wildfires in Indonesia cause haze across Southeast Asia, leading to event cancellations, school closures in Malaysia and Timor Leste, nationwide mask distribution and haze shelters in Singapore, protests, legal action and diplomatic tensions. (Post)
News source(s):
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Rejected for Ongoing so suggesting a simple blurb instead. The haze is especially severe this year due to El Nino and is dominating headlines in affected countries. The article is well referenced but some sections need expansion. ~2026-55444-41 (talk) 08:00, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Napoleon Bonaparte

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Article: Napoleon Bonaparte (police officer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: That is his legal name, yes. Juxlos (talk) 07:04, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

  • Comment - and I think that our readers can be expected to know that Napoleon I is dead already, and if they've heard of his son and his nephew, them too. Neither of the current Bonapartist pretenders has Napoleon as a first name. So I don't think we need to include the disambiguation text in the RD posting. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:34, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support - It's about time! OrdinariusFingius (talk) 08:09, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Blurb conquered half of Europe. In all seriousness though, I don’t see any issues so support — Knightoftheswords(talk) 10:02, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Blurb one of the greatest French generals and leaders of all time...
Wait, wrong Napoleon Bonaparte. Support either way, article looks fine.   Jalapeño   (u t g) 11:23, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 11:40, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Of course we need to RD this. Article seems to be in good shape. Yakikaki (talk) 12:14, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support The article is sufficiently sourced, the quality is fine. Dude was also named after Napoleon. CastleFort1 (talk) 12:18, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment, not to block its posting. Should this be posted maskign the disambig tag? Its not like today there is anyone else notable named the same, but given comments above, it would seem to be a possible source of confusion and surprise if we posted this with the disambiguation masked. Just an honest question. (We have made sure when names can be confused with other living persons that are of similar or greater notability, we tag appropriately). Masem (t) 13:28, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It would be wise if we were to look at the precedents. Has there ever been a case before where we RD a barely prominent figure who bears the name of a household figure? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:34, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Obviously the other Bonaparte would be of greater notability, but would the disambiguation be too long? Napoleon Bonaparte (police officer) is 35 characters. Juxlos (talk) 14:37, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
We could trim to just "(officer)", but only if we feel we need it and there's a problem with adding extra text causing an extra RD line. Masem (t) 15:26, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I suppose though that the other Napoleon was also an officer… Chorchapu (talk | edits) 15:59, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
just plain ole Napoleon Bonaparte would be good, giving some giggles for mainpage watchers for the next few days :) Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 00:15, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I think the disambig will be too long and might set some bad precedents. Eh, just keep it, it will give our readers a nice lil laugh for a few days. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 15:31, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support blurb, but this seems slightly stale. He died ~200 years ago. In all seriousness, Support RD. CREditzWiki (yap) | (things i apparently did) 15:11, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Oh, where's Wellington? In seriousness, article is in great shape and ready for RD. The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 15:54, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD. Article is of good quality Gauze ↵ 18:15, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD, article in good shape. Beta Beta Beta - talk 21:04, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD although I wish this occurred near April Fools Day. KhokcheHendi (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Posted – robertsky (talk) 02:17, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

October 17

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(Posted) Intensification of French protests

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Articles: Hôtel de Ville, Limoges (talk · history · tag) and 2026 French fuel protests (talk · history · tag) and 2026 French student protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In France, the city hall of Limoges, listed as a monument historique by the French government, is largely destroyed amidst an intensification of ongoing student and fuel protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The city hall of Limoges is burned down as student and fuel demonstrations intensify in France.
Alternative blurb 2: ​ The Hôtel de Ville (pictured) in Limoges burns down as student and fuel protests escalate in France.
News source(s): Fox News, Euronews, Le Monde, , UNN, CNN, DW
Credits:
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Yes, we posted the protests earlier, but I'm nominating this since yesterday, as evidenced by multiple outlets, the recent days have seen a profound escalation in unrest, with up to a million taking to the streets, thousands being arrested in single days, the yellow vest movement being revitalized over fuel prices, and with protests now even spreading into Italy. Additionally, the burning of the city hall of Limoges, listed as a historic monument by the French government, has garnered widespread international coverage and attention. Mind you that this was nominated for ongoing a few days ago, but was rejected on the premises of the coverge having subsided. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 05:51, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Also, the page has finally received big updates recently, and I personally updated the infobox as to accurately represent all of the protesting groups. 296cherry (talk) 05:57, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I also think that the protests should be put onto Ongoing OrdinariusFingius (talk) 06:10, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The blurb is way too long and should be rewritten tho OrdinariusFingius (talk) 06:23, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Added Altblurb2 OrdinariusFingius (talk) 09:25, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I've moved this to October 17 ... this particular riot was major news before midnight. I've cleaned up the dreadful formatting too - which is getting increasingly poorer here. How difficult is it to edit this, rather than to reply with a new contribution? Nfitz (talk) 19:09, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Do you mean the formatting in the replies? It seemed fine to me other than some replies missing the • symbol. Might I ask what difference it makes? Clicking reply is simply the easiest option for me so I'm wondering if it harms the site in any way. Gauze ↵ 21:28, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The fire represents a major escalation of the protests. In India they are becoming common too. ArionStar (talk) 16:46, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment, should be noted that it was partially, not completely, burnt down. Only the bell tower and roof were destroyed.[1] GN22 (talk) 03:10, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

2026 Kolkata Durga Puja crowd crush

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Article: 2026 Kolkata Durga Puja crowd crush (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 19 people are killed and several injured in a crowd crush at a Durga Puja festival event in Kolkata, India. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: A decent article on a tragic event that is receiving global attention. ~2026-55789-52 (talk) 12:13, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Sources note the rarity of this at Durga Puja in Kolkata. Barebones but passable. Gotitbro (talk) 02:55, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support when orange tags removed One of the deadlier crowd crushes in India in the 2020s. RIP. Bremps... 02:56, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Explosion at CFB Wainwright

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Article: CFB Wainwright fire (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 7 personnel are killed and at least 24 injured after an explosion and fire at the 3rd Canadian Division Support Base Detachment Wainwright in Alberta, Canada. (Post)
News source(s): Global News
Credits:

 ~2026-41159-98 (talk) 06:00, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

  • Support I actually nominated this three minutes after you. This is being described as a major mass casualty event; one of its kind in Canada. This doesn't seem to be the result of any active operation (I know in the past that military disasters have been opposed on this basis) and there are likely more casualties; local medical offices are being overwhelmed while emergency services from all over Alberta and even parts of Canada are being deployed. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 06:07, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Foreest fires aren't unique in Canada, @Knightoftheswords281. Nor are mass casualty events - and far larger ones at that ... 2,000 people died in the Halifax explosion for example. I believe what you saw was a report that it's one of it's kind in Wainwright Alberta (population 6,600). Nfitz (talk) 09:05, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I don't think anyone's claiming that there are no other mass casualty events in Canada - just that this one may (depending on what facts come out in the next few days) be in some way sui generis. The Halifax explosion was in 1917 - I think it's really stretching a point to cite that in an argument about whether or not we post an article to ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 17:42, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Perhaps it will, @GenevieveDEon, but the only reporting I saw yesterday on this was about it's uniqueness in Wainwright, Alberta. The nomination was "one if its kind in Canada". Projecting this to what it may become shouldn't be part of the discussion. Nfitz (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
That’s what your country’s minister of defense stated. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 21:25, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support definitely worthwhile putting on the main page. --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:10, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support as a seemingly very unusual event. This is clearly a developing story, and we should keep an eye on it, to update the blurb if any key facts emerge which clarify matters. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:10, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Wait - this is way too soon. Most of the news reports are about a forest fire, not an explosion. The reports about the fire preceded any reports about injuries, let alone deaths, or it even moving into the base. Perhaps it got to an ammo dump? Perhaps reports aren't accurate? Nfitz (talk) 09:02, 18 October 2026 (UTC) - changed to oppose below. Nfitz (talk) 19:05, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Comment. Nominator here. From the global news video (which is linked within the source above), it appears that there was a firing exercise where artillery or shells accidentally punctured a gas line or tank. That eventually led to a fire. Some civillians were affected as well; a mother and child barely got out. Early reports from other sources suggest that 4 soldiers were burned in the fire. ~2026-41159-98 (talk) 17:36, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Lean oppose for now, as there isn't much info available at the moment. NotKringe (talk) 09:03, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose on the basis that the deaths are all of military personnel, in the same reason we tend not to post crashes of military craft. Being in the military in whatever country carries a risk. The lack of details on exactly what happened also tend to weigh against this for now. Masem (t) 12:02, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Never understood this supposed ban on all military disasters. It’s one thing to involve military disasters occurring in active combat zones, but for peacetime forces, there’s may as well be as much risk as any other domestic criminal activity or disaster of any sorts for the normal population. Would the Fort Hood shooting have not been posted under this criterion? Note that this longstanding practice was largely rejected in March btw. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 21:41, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support in principle, more information needed More information is needed regarding the military casualties that happened at the CFB Wainwright base. Military casualties and a wildfire at a military base appears one of a kind, which is the reason why I support this nomination in principle. CastleFort1 (talk) 12:28, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose per Masem. --~2026-55444-41 (talk) 16:27, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose the nomination mentions 7 dead, but there's only 4 dead reported at the highest level. This was nominated way too soon. A training accident is terrible, but it's neither unique nor particularly noteworth on an international basis. There's been far bigger training accidents in Canada. Far bigger fires. Bigger explosions. Nothing unique about this, despite the claims of the nominator. Yesterday, the only uniqueness I could see mentioned in the media was strictly relating to the Town of Wainwright - population less than 7,000. Nfitz (talk) 19:05, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    And now, there isn't even an explosion according to the military. Just a fire. 4 killed in a fire isn't significant. Nfitz (talk) 02:37, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support. Unusual peacetime military disaster that is in the news internationally. Jessintime (talk) 00:58, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

RD: Jack Berry (journalist)

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Article: Jack Berry (journalist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Detroit News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Noted golf and sports journalist. Flibirigit (talk) 23:36, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Green star

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Spectrum and visualisation
Article: WD J1330+6435 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The first green star, WD J1330+6435, is discovered. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ WD J1330+6435, the first star with green apparent color, is discovered. Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This nomination was suggested by an editor on the ITN talk page and the topic looks good so far. Andrew🐉(talk) 20:38, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply

"'Comment"' I'm the person who suggested this and this is a sube (I don't think I spelled that correct) ~2026-55743-99 (talk) 21:13, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
no longer now ~2026-55743-99 (talk) 21:15, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support big astronomical news, prolly around the same caliber of the black hole photo. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 21:43, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support As while the article is small (I wouldn't expect the article of an otherwise non notable star to be much bigger), I see nothing wrong with it, and the news of green stars is quite exciting.
Snosibsnob (talk) 22:52, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support Very neat discovery, seconding the comment above re. article size. Technically should be filed under October 15 as that is the date the paper was published (for some reason, our article cites it as "6 January 2026" – anyone wants to double-check to make sure there aren't other errors there?)
    Noting that the star was already known beforehand (e.g. which already established a color spectrum, cf. fig 7), with the new paper only establishing how that color would be perceived by the human eye – the blurb could be rewritten to clarify that. Still, scientific discoveries often happen progressively, and the moment we figure out it is green is probably still deserving of a blurb. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 01:07, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support - Discoveries are very important OrdinariusFingius (talk) 01:15, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose It's NOT green. It's great science, but technically this is just another white dwarf. Calling it green is just tabloid pap. I can't tell for sure from the article, but I doubt it can be seen with the naked eye, so saying "It appears green" is misleading. HiLo48 (talk) 01:33, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Agree that the blurb should clarify that "green star" is just about its visible-spectrum color rather than a new class of stars. Apparent magnitude is 20.6, so it's very, very far from being visible with the naked eye. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 01:38, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Well it is 280 light years away - @Chaotic Enby. What colour would it appear to a human eye if it was close enough to be, say, magniude +2 or something. Nfitz (talk) 09:12, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Pale green! That's exactly what the new paper was trying to evaluate. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 14:43, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    I have to agree with this. Its bad reporting, as the paper (linked in nom) asserts that white dwarves are white, the variance in colors coming from a number of observation-based factors. Masem (t) 03:10, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    The paper does not assert that white dwarfs are white. It asserts that the average white dwarf is roughly white (based on their average temperature), but individual white dwarfs can be any colour from blue to white to orange, and a few specific white dwarfs can have more exotic colours. This is shown in Figure B8-B11. AstroChara (talk) 03:21, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    A white dwarf is a star, so a green white dwarf is a green star.
    For clarification, by "seen with naked eye" do you mean seeing the colour when up close? Assuming that it is, the image attached to the proposal is exactly what the article suggests one would see with their naked eye, and it is clearly green. It is not an exaggerated colour. AstroChara (talk) 03:26, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    From the CNN article "While for most stars, color is temperature-dependent and limited to a few hues, white dwarfs, which are the dense remnants of sun-like stars that have died, can glow in an incredible range of colors, said lead study author Mark Hollands, an astrophysicist at the University of Warwick, England, on Thursday. “The colors that normal stars can have are pretty much only orange, white or blue,” Hollands told CNN. “What we found is, for most white dwarfs, that’s the same as well. But there are some special cases where the physics in the outer layers of these stars are sufficiently strange that it causes actually quite big deviations in terms of their spectrum,” he said.", which tells me the "discovery" of a green white dwarf is not surprising at all given that the color variation is due to any non H2/He elements consumed by the star. (Our article supports that the color can vary from blue to red).
    So 1) it is wrong to call it simply a green star, it is a white dwarf that has visible green spetra lines due to the various light metals its taken in, and 2) it is a curiousity but not a ground-breaking astrophysics result since white dwarves are already known to exhibit a wide band of colors, just that no specific green one had been found until now. This is great as a DYK but a bad ITN. Masem (t) 04:09, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    No one said its a new formal classification of stars, just that it upends our current perceptive system of white, yellow-red, and blue stars and how they can appear. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 05:21, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Not really. The paper in question is quite clear the whole range can exist, so it was just a matter of finding such a white dwarf with a more green color than others. The problem is all the regular news sources are treating it like no one ever through white dwarves emitting green could exist, when it was more that per this paper, it was only a matter of time to find an example of a green-tinted white dwarf. Its perfect for a DYK (article meets timing) though. Masem (t) 12:13, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Yeah that’s basically what I said; this is visual confirmation of a phenomenon. A little bit like the black hole photo, which we did post. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 21:45, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support A white dwarf star that looks green to the visible eye when viewed very close is an interesting development in astronomy news. It is also a counterexample to the claim that describes white dwarfs as appearing visibly white when viewed at a close distance. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:15, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
To summarize the source, white dwarf stars still have a true white appearance, it's just their view up close may have green tinted glasses or rose tinted glasses from time to time. CastleFort1 (talk) 04:20, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Lean support On on hand, it being a white dwarf and green being not its true color weights down the claim of it being a true "green star", on the other hand, this sort of proof that a green-colored star could exists, even if it's not its inherent color. NotKringe (talk) 05:02, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose - per Masem. This is a deeply misleading headline which implies the discovery of a new class of astronomical body. That implication is false, and the real story is not exceptional, merely a curious piece of trivia. Contrary to what Knightoftheswords281 has said, this discovery does not overturn our existing understanding of star colour at all. GenevieveDEon (talk) 07:05, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    It does overturn the conventional wisdom about star colour. For example, at the start of the year, Scientific American published an article explaining Why Are There No Green Stars?. This has now been refuted. Q.E.D. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Which if you read that talk about how the human optical system (and thus space imagery devices) were not built to pick up green over colors like yellow and red, not that green stars can't exist. Completely different reason. Masem (t) 12:05, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    The human eye and perception is fundamental to our concept of colour and so this is not completely different. For another example of the previous conventional wisdom, see Why aren't there any green stars?. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:29, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    Given the nature of what white dwarves are, and the general principle of why we get light from stars, that's like a bad answer for trying to justify posting this. That question is right that we likely will never observe a green young star, but as they mature and collapse and form dwarf stars (which are a very different class) then the lack of intensity of the main reds and yellows diminish as to allow these other colors to dominate the emission spectra. We know dwarves range from blue to red, so a green one is not unusual. Masem (t) 18:10, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    The odd thing is that black-body emission spectra range from red to white to blue – the only way to get a green one is with unusually strong absorption, which was the case here, rather than a change in temperature. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 18:56, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    The sources I have cited show that the possibility of a green star was not anticipated in advance and that's why the result is significant. Masem's claim otherwise is not supported by a source and so is worthless. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:47, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose Well, I struggled to find the story on the BBC website but eventually found it in the children's news section(!) and it suggests that white dwarfs can not only be green, but also blue, red, yellow, orange, pink and violet (i.e. every colour in the visible spectrum). Would probably be a good DYK article. Black Kite (talk) 11:14, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Also... The source used in the article says "That, say the team, has enriched its atmosphere with calcium, lithium, and sodium, causing it to glow green according to models." So only according to models? Black Kite (talk) 19:19, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Perceived by who, though? It has a magnitude of 20. This is a "and finally folks, those damn astromers have found a weird star" item on the news, not an ITN item. Black Kite (talk) 18:06, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    From what I understood, this is a peer-reviewed accurate simulation of how it would appear through telescope, so the perceived color wording is correct. The fact that a magnitude prevents direct observation doesn't change the star's physical properties. Brandmeister talk 22:22, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Green stars have been a thought for quite a while, this is great news. Luxinhas (talk) 12:08, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose per Hilo and Black Kite. Nothing very remarkable about it, not receiving significant coverage. Just because it's "science" and "astronomy" doesn't mean it's automatically suitable for ITN, and likening it to a photograph of a black hole is frankly astounding. This is just a quirk in the chemistry of one example an existing well-attested object which would happen to render it green if a human could see it, but it's of no other relevance.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:52, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose per Black Kite. - SchroCat (talk) 18:03, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Closed) Waiver of sanctions on Russia

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Articles: Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026 (talk · history · tag) and 2026 Iran war fuel crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Additional US sanctions on Russia are waived two days before they were due to take effect following a US deal to import Russian diesel fuel. (Post)Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: A remarkable volte face as Trump signs the Graham act in September and now signs a waiver to undo it. The geopolitical effect on the Ukraine War seems quite significant but the ongoing links don't seem to cover it. The Ukraine and Iran Wars have so much history and ramifications now that they are not much use to readers wanting to know about specific issues such as this. And I don't think their updates are keeping up either. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:37, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose covered by ongoing. Small part from a bigger event _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 11:23, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
No, it's not covered by ongoing – I checked those articles and discussed this in the nomination. The point is that if a reader wants to know more about the relevant articles for this prominent news such as Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia and Iran Act of 2026, they are not going to find them by going to ongoing. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:29, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The fact is that this particular Act is not particularly significant, so it does not warrant special consideration. The ongoing article refers to international reactions and sanctions imposed by third countries. That is more than enough. _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 11:57, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Alsor in addition that we'd not have post the start of the sanctions, so the fact the status quo is maintained itself isn't a big thing. (Also, the law did have this out for him, clear as day, its likely the only reason he signed it, it is not like its completely flaunting the law itself). There are other implications here but those are far longer-term issues that would be incredibly speculative to speak of now. Masem (t) 11:27, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • I have revised the wording of the blurb to address your concern. The overall impact here is that, rather than sanctioning Russian trade as the act planned, the US is doing deals with Russia instead. There are associated issues like the renewed tension between the US and Ukraine. None of the ongoing articles seem to be covering any of these diplomatic and economic developments -- the timeline seems to be mainly a catalogue of air raids. ITN is not giving our readers quality coverage of this major war. Even the current events portal doesn't seem to have anything much. It's a remarkable failure across the board. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:41, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    That's not ITN's purpose (to keep readers abreast of the war), its to feature quality articles that happen to be in the news. Masem (t) 17:04, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    No, ITN's purpose is defined at WP:ITNPURPOSE and that starts with To help readers find and quickly access content they are likely to be searching for because an item is in the news. That doesn't mention quality; it's all about helping readers find articles which are in the news. Now the Lindsey Graham act waiver is in the news – it's the leading story lately in the major media I've listed. ITN has entries for the war but they don't do the job of helping readers find this topic. So, something more is needed to fulfil the purpose.
    And note that ITN is otherwise not moving; it hasn't posted a blurb for 5 days now. It's broken by the do-nothing obstructiveness that we see here.
    Andrew🐉(talk) 17:47, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    You can't read one part of ITNPURPOSE of isolation from the others. Quality is one of the purposes too. And ITN also doesn't care how "big" a story is, particularly if it doesn't readily fit the purpose of an encyclopedia, as most ongoing political stories be (due to massive amounts of speculation and theories without actual knowledge of reasoning). Masem (t) 18:43, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose - this means that nothing happened regarding this OrdinariusFingius (talk) 18:33, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
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RD: Deva (composer)

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Article: Deva (composer) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of India, The Hindu
Credits:
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Renowned veteran Indian music composer. Pioneered Chennai’s gaana music into mainstream cinema. Abishe (talk) 07:25, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Oppose. Claim of 400 films is supported by one reference pointing to a single album on Spotify. Only seven films are sourced in a massive discography table. Celjski Grad (talk) 14:49, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@Celjski Grad: Fixed up the article thanks to obits. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply

October 16

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Abhijeet Dipke detained

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Article: Abhijeet Dipke (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Founder of Cockroach Janta Party Abhijeet Dipke is detained by the Delhi police amid protests demanding the resignation of Chief Election Commissioner Gyanesh Kumar. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Protests against electoral reforms lead to arrests in New Delhi, after 130 million names are removed from Indian electoral rolls.
Alternative blurb 2: ​ Leaders of the CJP are detained by police in New Delhi after protests against electoral reforms including a purge of 130 million voters from electoral rolls. Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 23:31, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Certainly not Dipke himself, but I could support the wider protests in a blurb. They seem to be getting bigger and bigger, with no sign of stopping. But focusing in on a single person's arrest is not the way to go about it. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 23:35, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
He is the leader of the protests. ArionStar (talk) 00:05, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I am well aware, but just a single person's arrest will never be important enough for ITN. But like I said, I'd probably support a blurb for the wider protest movement in India. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 00:17, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I disagree but ok... ArionStar (talk) 00:33, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Maduro? Bremps... 01:23, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Maduro is an exception because he's a world leader etc. A single person being arrested can be notable enough if the person being arrested is a notable figure on their own. But the leader of a protest movement on their own isn't enough of a story, especially when the rest of the story can stand up on it's own if the focus is placed on that, instead of just one arrest.PliskorCor (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
That was closer to an invasion than an arrest. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 03:26, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The arrest of Rodrigo Duterte was posted. ArionStar (talk) 03:55, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
That was a former national leader. A party leader is a far different matter. Masem (t) 03:57, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
And the 2025–2026 Turkish protests were posted as: Anti-government protests break out across Turkey following the arrest of Istanbul mayor Ekrem İmamoğlu by the Turkish National Police. ArionStar (talk) 04:25, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Note that in your example, the bolded link is the protests, and the arrest is listed only as a cause, not the main story. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 04:27, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Many arrests have been posted at ITN such as Julian Assange or El Chapo. A clear precedent is:

Social activist Anna Hazare is arrested in Delhi, with more than 5,000 supporters being detained across India.

Andrew🐉(talk) 07:20, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
That was 15 years ago, and Assange and Chapo had both had far greater notability and had been in the news for years. Neither are relevant precedents, especially when the actual story here is the protests themselves.PliskorCor (talk) 09:19, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The Assange and El Chapo arrests were more recent and none of these people were national leaders. And it's easy to find more examples such as In Russia, protests against the arrest of Alexey Navalny occur in many cities. The point is that the claim above that "a single person's arrest will never be important enough for ITN" is quite false. None of these false, handwaving assertions are based on evidence or policy. Tsk. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:06, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
"A single person being arrested can be notable enough if the person being arrested is a notable figure on their own." Hazare would not be posted today, it was posted 15 years ago. Things change in 15 years. Navalny was not the target topic of that blurb, the protests were. Sure we may post a single person's arrest. But that has to be the main story and the person needs to be notable on their own. That is not the case here. This feels like rules lawyering in bad faith, by ignoring context that doesn't suit, and bringing in anything that does, even if it was 15 years ago, and is no longer relevant to how things operate.PliskorCor (talk) 10:22, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
There's plenty of coverage of Abhijeet Dipke as a person and Wikipedia clearly considers him notable now as he has an article. The claim otherwise is another false assertion unsupported by evidence.
We should cover the protests and the background too. But we need a current event for ITN purposes and this arrest has been nominated as that event.
Andrew🐉(talk) 10:56, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Altblurb Added an altblurb that I feel is more appropriate. The leader of the protests being detained by itself is not enough. The protests however have been in the news, and 130 million names being removed from the electoral rolls is more notable.PliskorCor (talk) 00:51, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The most headlines read like the original blurb. ArionStar (talk) 01:08, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Yes, but that's not notable, and is not the meat of the story. PliskorCor (talk) 01:23, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
If the protest article is to be used as the target (which seems like the right approach given comments above), it stops coverage at Oct 13 and doesn't seem to mention these arrests. It needs updating. And as I see, its suggested to be merged with the general election issue, and I would rather see smart integration and trimming to cover that as a whole to provide a comprehensive article. Masem (t) 03:51, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2026 anti-CEC protests.
Not merged. Closed as Keep. Gotitbro (talk) 02:51, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • '"Oppose'" Low level party leader.
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RD: Hyron Andrews

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Article: Hyron Andrews (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sky Sports
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: South African Rugby Union player Joejoe101111 (talk) 18:43, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Not a perfect article but good enough. Bremps... 02:58, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

October 15

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2026 Peshawar school roof collapse

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Article: 2026 Peshawar school roof collapse (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Thirty-five people die in a school roof collapse in Peshawar, the deadliest structural failure in the history of Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ A school roof collapse in Peshawar, Pakistan leaves 35 people dead.
News source(s): ABC News
Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 13:47, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Comment I wrote the start for this article and I would support it if it was expanded OrdinariusFingius (talk) 20:23, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted, image debated) Leap second

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The leap second displayed by NIST in 2016
Article: Leap second (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The International Bureau of Weights and Measures votes to abolish the leap second over concerns that it could disrupt computer systems. (Post)

 UCinternational (talk) 13:16, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support on notability/oppose on quality Currently the article doesn't really state the information about it clearly. It does state the information, but needs to be cleaned up a bit. Support it though, because it's something that is being abolished that isn't expected to be necessary to mention again for centuries. Fun information that's in the news.PliskorCor (talk) 14:05, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose, well written article but this is unimportant bureaucratic trivia. Gauze ↵ 14:10, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support not sure how this is trivial, but this has received extensive coverage and does have an effect on future timekeeping, with potential implications for other manually added time oddities via precedent. It's also an interesting story from an area not often focused by ITN. Again, an ITN story doesn't have to be legendary. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 15:20, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I don't think it's particularly interesting nor meaningful. It only has coverage as a "slow news day" story. Timekeeping doesn't affect anyone's day to day lives. Gauze ↵ 15:34, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Yeah but does an ITN story ought to noticeably affect everyone's lives? There's a big difference between posting this and posting the Kelly Clarkson bird drama . — Knightoftheswords(talk) 15:48, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
With our current standards for significance, yes, particularly the weight on the completion of an event and not just its announcement. The proposed weakening of significance to put focus on better article quality and update (which should allow far more candidates through), this would be appropriate, except that I think the article quality is not there for posting at this point. We want to feature more things that fall into science like this, but I personally can't see us IAR the current expectation on significance for that. Masem (t) 15:51, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose since its not going to take effect until .. 2030 IIRC? As I was reading at best this is another Y2K problem except it won't hit until the year 40,000 + change, so it really has minimal impact. US potentially getting rid of DST is a much larger impact if that happens. Masem (t) 15:42, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support It's interesting that the Earth has been spinning more rapidly lately and so there was a risk of having to remove a second which would be especially risky as it has not been done before. Getting these things right is quite significant, the technicalities are quite encyclopedic and the topic is considered vital. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:12, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose - This is better fit to be a piece of trivia for DYK. Events should not be posted because of how "fun" and "interesting" they are, which has been mentioned several times. ITN does not need to compensate for a lack of funniness, however, this is so boring I do not believe it even gets points for that. The blurb is also written in an unclear way, the leap second has not actively been abolished, they just voted to do so. OrdinariusFingius (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support I wanted to propose it myself. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia first of all, and what can be more encyclopedic than this? It is relevant for all the world (though not important for ordinary people), unlike some shootings somewhere, etc. And the decision is effective starting 1 January 2027!Wi1-ch (talk) 19:30, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose Trivia, but ideal for DYK. Black Kite (talk) 19:49, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    It's obviously not ideal for DYK as that's for new articles and this one has existed since 2001. The topic was created early in the life of Wikipedia as it is considered vital, not trivial. And DYK doesn't need more articles; it has a surfeit despite posting 9 nominations every day. It's ITN that is in dire need because it hasn't posted a blurb for days now. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:13, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Strong support Encyclopedic international news, it is what Wikipedia's ITN deserves. ArionStar (talk) 20:19, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support: International implications, widely covered, article is in good shape, and the update is sufficient. The decision de facto abolished leap seconds; even though the "official" abolishment date is May 20, 2027, it has already been announced that there will not be a leap second on December 31, 2026, which is the only time that one could be added between now and May. --Leviavery (talk) 21:39, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support per above Setarip (talk) 01:12, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support per above. It's not trivial - it's the type of questions popes used to struggle with. Khuft (talk) 07:46, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Indeed. Literally every post in this discussion has a UTC time stamp and such timekeeping is quite critical in modern computer systems. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:15, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Strong support Absolutely significant change in timekeeping and getting widespread coverage in reliable sources. Article is good quality too. Oppius Brutus (talk) 15:02, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Good ITN material IMO, significant change with consequences that are refreshingly not immediately political. Yakikaki (talk) 20:58, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • "'Mixed opinion'" I don't like the photo on this because it is a little off putting but I do like this in general
~2026-55743-99 (talk) 22:45, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Posted. Given the little amount of discussion about the picture, I've taken the cautious approach of not using it for now, but discussion can continue over its suitability. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 01:36, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Don't think that the NIST image is good for the MP but unsure if there is a suitable image. Natg 19 (talk) 03:25, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I don't like the nominated picture; at a glance, in the mind of a reader, it is unclear what this is supposed to be. I think for this, there isn't really a good image we can use since it's so abstract of a concept. But we aren't required to post any image, so we can just not use one. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 04:03, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Closed) 2026 Silver Rail Elementary School shooting

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Article: 2026 Silver Rail Elementary School shooting (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Three children and one teacher are killed in a school shooting Silver Rail Elementary School in the U.S. state of Oregon. (Post)
News source(s): AP News
Credits:
 Jgeorge20 (talk) 01:50, 16 October 2026 (UTC)Jgeorge20reply
I really hate to oppose because it is devastating that this is seen as a common occurrence. It is sad to say that this will not stand out like other shootings have. Do better, America. CREditzWiki (yap) | (things i apparently did) 02:45, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose. Although it got a lot of coverage and resulted in multiple fatalities/injuries, I think I agree with the voters above. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 03:37, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose A routine event that has moved beyond tragedy and into business as usual from a country that want's to do nothing to prevent things like this.PliskorCor (talk) 07:19, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
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(Posted) RD: Jack Hearn

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Article: Jack Hearn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ITV News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Death announced on this date. A remarkable man, one of the last veterans of the Battle of Monte Cassino, a judo instructor for over 70 years, even beyond the age of 100, a 10th dan black belt and world record holder. Unknown Temptation (talk) 20:51, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 22:49, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Article of sufficient quality. Gauze ↵ 23:13, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply

2026 Irish public sector strikes

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Article: 2026 Irish public sector strikes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ More than 300,000 public servants start a general strike (strike at Maynooth University pictured) amid an ongoing pay dispute between the sector and the Republic of Ireland's government. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ More than 300,000 public sector workers go on strike (strike at Maynooth University pictured) amid an ongoing pay dispute with the Republic of Ireland's government.
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

 ArionStar (talk) 18:46, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

  • Weak support I'm inclined to support but significant will have to be shown in the article. Right now it's very barebones and need to show what the big deal is. But from reading the news, such as RTÉ, this is the largest strike in Ireland in almost 20 years and is shutting a lot of the country down. Healthcare and education look to be grinding to a halt. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 18:58, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support blurb. Major news event in Ireland, article seems well written and sourced. Though I think the wording of the blurb could be shortened slightly for brevity, and I don't think the image is good enough to be the blurb image.
Perhaps "Over 300,000 public servants start a general strike in the Republic of Ireland amid an ongoing pay dispute with the government." would suffice. Gauze ↵ 20:27, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Alternative blurb over current blurb. I still think the image isn't particularly significant so as to serve as an ITN image, but I would prefer to have the article featured with the image than not at all. Gauze ↵ 22:48, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose Strikes happen all the time, everywhere. We had two general strikes in Belgium just last week. I don't understand why this Irish strike would be of global interest. Yakikaki (talk) 21:00, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    The strikes in Ireland are more notable partly due to the fact they currently feature over 10x more participants than the recent Belgian strikes in a country with half the population of Belgium. Gauze ↵ 22:03, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    For additional context, this is the largest co-ordinated strike in Ireland since the 2008 financial crash, and as per ITN guidelines: “Almost all news is of greater interest to a particular place or group of people than to the world at large, and arguing that something should or should not be posted, solely because of where the event happened, or who might be "interested" in it because of its location, are not usually met with concurrence from the community.” Gauze ↵ 22:07, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose per Yakikaki. Yet another general strike taking place around the world. Let's not pretend to post on every single one, only those that represent a significant, historic event or with major and lasting consequences. That is not the case here. Yet. _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 22:11, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
How could it have lasting consequences yet if it literally just begun? The whole point of In the news is that they’re ongoing topics. It’s not like we don’t include ongoing major protests/revolts in countries simply because they haven’t panned out into a result yet Gauze ↵ 22:33, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
all the more reason to oppose if it’s only just begun... _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 22:55, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
What? You could use this reasoning to oppose every single blurb here Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:35, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
300,000 people are striking, I'm sure nothing come if it! OrdinariusFingius (talk) 04:05, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
ITN tends to oppose posting about labour actions even when they do come to something. Editors opposed posting the 2024 Nigerian general strike even though it shut down the electricity grid and airports, and resulted in an agreement with the government. ITN has only ever posted about two general strikes, one in Guinea in 2007 and another in India in 2020; every other one has been rejected. As much as I find it baffling, ITN culture is very much aligned against reporting on labour news, even when they manifest as general strikes. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:12, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose for now local labour dispute for now, but if it drags on, we can revisit This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 22:54, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support I am really getting tired of the belief that an item ought to have immediate, earth-shattering significance to be featured. This is an item that's been reported on in multiple countries and even then, despite the claims that this is of minimal importance, this is around 10% of the population of a country going on strike.
The funny thing is that opposition like this (only post when there's a definitive conclusion, local matter, etc.) are often used on the basis that we're not a news section, which is bogus imo, but disregarding that, the narrative is bad enough that it can be argued from that argument. There's no point in handwringing this much (obviously some is needed) over significance, "long-term impact", etc. on an encyclopedia's part of its main page like we're trying to find front-page stories. This idea that its a grand honor for a story to be featured is very destructive to ITN. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 01:42, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Because Wikipedia nor ITN are not a newspaper, and ITN is here to feature the dynamic ability of WP to produce quality articles that are in the news in a timely manner. That quality aspect usually means that the article has to have a wider scale significance as well as being much farther along to distill what the impacts actually are. We simply cannot post every single protest, even if its widely covered. A seven-paragraph article, four of those dedicated to background and reactions, is nowhere close to that mark. Masem (t) 02:11, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Very disappointing to see a veteran contributor here who still thinks this is a news section. It is absolutely foundational to what we are doing to understand that is not the case. GreatCaesarsGhost 11:10, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The foundation of ITN is explained at WP:ITN, ITN originated in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks, when entries were created and put on the Main Page within minutes of the attacks. The entries led to an infusion of interest by editors in creating a Main Page section that linked to articles providing readers the context behind the news. The constraint is Wikipedia is not an online newspaper and does not accept original works of journalism or first-hand reports. Wikipedians are allowed to create and update encyclopedic articles of timely interest based on reliable sources. So, ITN gets regular nominations like this for new articles that are based on news reports. And it posts some of them such as the current lead blurb October 2026 Houthi attacks on Saudi Arabia airports. That's not really an encyclopedia article; it's more of a WP:NEWSEVENT. So it goes... Andrew🐉(talk) 12:33, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
which is is a much larger problem with NOTNEWS that editors are rushing to create articles on events that do not have clear initial long lasting significance for an encyclopedia. Short term reporting is considered primary sourcing, so until its clear secondary sourcing can be made (which can be said if the airport attack now), we shouldn't be creating new articles but if anything addicting to knes already known to be notable. Masem (t) 13:09, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
WP:NOTNEWS is meant more to target small scale, media interest stories; essentially like type of stuff you see get tens of million views on Inside Edition or a small-scale crime that went viral but is ultimately of local interest. Stories like the Saudi airport strikes or the Cornell Seven, which I've also seen critiques for similar reasons, that get immediate, widespread, international coverage and analysis, aren't covered by NOTNEWS, as efforts to curtail them have demonstrated.
Reminder that there are four points of NOTNEWS; 1 is about not being home to original reporting, 3 is about not going excessively indepth relating to BLPs, and 4 is about not being a gossipy tabloid. 2, which is that articles aren't news reports, seems to be where this tendency to label any article on a recent event as being a NOTNEWS vio rests on, but it just says to not write it in a news style and to use WP:NEVENTS.
Another reminder that the vast majority of news stories, even ones that get substantial coverage, aren't even mentioned on Wikipedia, and we do a pretty good job of limiting that. There was a time a few years ago when the lines were maybe genuinely blurred (mainly the disaster noms), but I think that's been curtailed. This idea that we need to be even more restrictive to me strikes of basically trying to make Wikipedia Britannica from 1980, not understanding that the technical capabilities of an online and free encyclopedia dramatically expand the scope of what can be covered. And the community largely agrees; henceforth why I don't see why ITN should be trying to establish a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS to fight this; I've always said that if you disagree, take it to AFD, though I doubt the above two examples would succeed. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 16:49, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
that's not all what the purpose of NOTNEWS. Its to draw the line between making sure WP is s dynamic resource and encouraging editors to keep articles to date with on the spot reliably sourced info, while not making sure we are reporting events as a newspaper would because the goal of an encyclopedia is far different from a newspaper, looking at the long term picture. Like all policies, NOTNEWS is descriptive and prescriptive so you have to understand intent not just thr exact language written then. We augment NOTNEWS with NEVENT to further try to curtail new articles on breaking events until some demonstration of long term notability can be made. This specific strike is exactly a reason why we have that, because its long term notability and impact is entirely unclear. Masem (t) 16:58, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
This discussion should happen at afd, not itn Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 17:04, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Exactly; I'm not a fan of this "fortress ITN" that doesn't even combat the supposed issue at hand. Worse still, the fact that nothing is done with these articles accused of being NOTNEWS vios is that now NOTNEWS has become a generic term to oppose an item on the in the news section, which is ridiculous. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 17:07, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
People often forget WP:SUSTAINED Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 17:10, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Which means well beyond just a few days of news coverage but over a longer period of time. Most events are difficult to show evidence of that. Masem (t) 11:38, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The reason to bring up NOTNEWS is that when a new event article is created for posting at ITN, we should be asking if it meets NOTNEWS/NEVENT standards, above and beyond the other ITN requirements. Editors are far too fast in creating event articles, so we have to consider that here. And I absolutely hate taking anything nominated at ITN to AFD while still open at ITN if there is potential for possible improvement, either due to better sources or due to changes in the event (like, if these turned violent), unless the article is clear nonsense. After the ITNC is closed, then AFD is fair game. Masem (t) 11:48, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Well the problem is that the community had largely rejected that this article is of AfD standards, which just means that these articles are determined by the broader community to be notable while we then have people on here just opposing due to AfD arguments for. I've rarely seen archived or AfDed nominations be taken to AfD despite accusations of NOTNEWSPAPER or whatever. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 15:41, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
No, events like the Saudi or Irish strikes (heh) have clear immediate significance. Obviously for certain events, even ones with lots of global attention, a burst of coverage doesn't immediately equate to long term significance, stuff like the Obama tan suit controversy for instance that had lots of coverage at the time, but only gained transcending relevance years later. However, we don't have to wait that long for all stories when there's clear immediate significance. If we followed this, we basically couldn't post anything like the Ukraine, Gaza, or Iran wars. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 17:05, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Heres a similar example
1970–1973 Republic of Ireland rent strikes Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 17:06, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It is absolutely a news section just as OTD is an anniversary section; its in the name, and embedded in its purpose. That doesn't mean ITN is a news outlet; we do no original reporting, analysis, or any of the like expected from such, but we are still a section about news; it's in WP:ITNPURPOSE. My argument is that this is unnecessary semantics that contributes to what I frankly view as a bunch of disruptive discourse around here, as well as the fact that even if you hold that news section = outlet, that may honestly even be a greater argument against this narrative of "immediate/high importance". — Knightoftheswords(talk) 16:23, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Our purpose is to feature quality content. The news bit is just a flavor of that purpose; specifically "look at how quickly we made quality content for a thing that just happened!" Discussions about significance and long term impact can be overwrought, but it speaks directly to that purpose, because insignificant events make for bad articles. As an example, this article is not good but no one is talking about that, because we're having this NOTNEWS debate again. We need to adopt the proposed changes to the significance criteria so that we can stop doing this. GreatCaesarsGhost 12:30, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Our purpose is to feature quality content. The news bit is just a flavor of that purpose; specifically "look at how quickly we made quality content for a thing that just happened!"

Where is this listed at WP:ITNPURPOSE? — Knightoftheswords(talk) 15:38, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Read it as a whole, read the history of how ITN came about. Note that we specifically don't say to feature news items, but items that are in the news, which is far different. Masem (t) 15:46, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Note that we specifically don't say to feature news items, but items that are in the news, which is far different

Yeah, but not in the way you think. We still feature content that is recently in the news; that is emphasized directly in the first three points of ITNPURPOSE and indirectly in the last two. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 22:25, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
You beat me to correcting the 10% of the population figure. Ireland hasn't had a population of only 3 million the 1700s. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:32, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Its no longer just work to rule, its strikes now Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 16:36, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I also said intermittent. It's still intermittent? GreatCaesarsGhost 12:30, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Wait Looking at the article, I don't get a sense of how much actual economic activity is being impacted by this strike. Compare to, say, the 1981 Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization strike. Despite being a much smaller strike force, we could say a definitive impact immediately (leaving aside that it happened 20 years before wikipedia). This is a step in a much longer story that might not be featureable on ITN. Furthermore, this is not "300,000 workers in Ireland walk off the job until their demands are met", it is "300,000 workers in Ireland take a coordinated day off". When and if the workers go on complete strike or are locked out this will be significant enough to post. As it is, this story is just a union grandstanding to get a better deal. ~2026-52228-20 (talk) 13:50, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It's unlikely that they'll escalate beyond single-day strikes, given the presence of teachers unions, who shy away from them due to disruptions to the curriculum. Economic activity is also unlikely to be disrupted much, as public service workers are generally low value added workers, compared to roles like air traffic controllers, and strikes by them are more about disrupting the distribution of government services. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 22:41, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
WP:CRYSTAL Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 22:44, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I don't know for sure what's going to happen, and I never said I did, but I'd assume this wouldn't escalate given similar teacher strikes happened in my home state of Queensland last year, and didn't escalate beyond single-day strikes. V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 00:07, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose blurb as written. This is not a general strike, none of the cited sources nor the article itself describe it as such. Suggest an ALT blurb that replaces this incorrect language with something more accurate. --Grnrchst (talk) 14:04, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Be bold, do it yourself Froglord (Finnfrog99) (talk) 18:27, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Done. Suggested ALT1 which drops language unsupported by the source material. --Grnrchst (talk) 18:44, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Closed) Martha Nussbaum

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Article: Martha Nussbaum (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Awarded the Kluge Prize from the Library of Congress (in September 22) and Principality Prize in Monaco (October 13) Jeffgriffinsignal (talk) 18:25, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
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(Posted RD) RD/Blurb: Martina Arroyo

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Article: Martina Arroyo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American opera singer Martina Arroyo dies at the age of 90. (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Died on Tuesday, announced today. Article seems okay, should be good to go. Jiewei Xiong (talk) 16:40, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

  • Support. For transparency, I recently completely rewrote and sourced this article this past summer. I did extensive fact checking, so I am confident the article is good shape.4meter4 (talk) 23:01, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
    It would be pretty nice to feature that relatively recent work, and I am seeing quite a lot of editing activity the past two days too. I'm leaning support on blurb, but the single sentence on her death feels a bit terse. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:10, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support. I came to nominate. I even think she'd deserve a blurb because of her position in Black history and also by article quality. I added 4meter4 to the updaters, - expansion in July was just wonderful, and she may have enjoyed it! I often feel sad when an article blossoms only after the subject's death. I made minor changes. Go ahead and nominate her for GA, 4meter4, - reviewers are eager this month to collect points in a drive, - three opera singers became GA this week, and they are less detailed that Arroyo's article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support blurb call it IAR. I realize there is going to be a "major figures" debate, but we should not miss the forest for the trees. Our primary purpose is to improve the main space by encouraging and rewarding editors to improve. Compare the article today to what it looked like before 4meter4's update: GreatCaesarsGhost 13:20, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Could you word a blurb? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@Gerda Arendt: I have done so. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 13:46, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Can we stop with this Thatcher Mandela thing? Both were transformative only in a limited field (so they should've never been blurbed), and also - it was not opera. At least I never heard them sing. There is no Thatchermandela standard anywhere in ITN guidelines. Edit: I have no opinion on the blurb itself as I'm not too familiar with the "limited field". But that doesn't mean I'd oppose it because of that. byteflush Talk 23:28, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@1779Days: Very few of the RD blurbs we post are as major as those two individuals. Also, the vast majority (including both Thatcher and Mandela) were only transformative in their field. Would you have opposed Dolly Parton being posted? QuicoleJR (talk|edits) 03:03, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Dolly was a household name to a huge part of the world and was a major figure in entertainment in general. She was easily in the 10 most famous people to pass in 2026 and deserving of a blurb. Margaret Hamilton wasn’t a household name, but anyone on this website uses computers and thus was affected by her foundational work. But opera is a limited field that only a small percentage of people engage with, the vast majority of people never see one or do maybe once or twice in their lives. Martina Arroyo was transformative in a ‘high culture’ field. Parton and Hamilton in mass culture. 1779Days (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
From the main page: American software engineer Margaret Hamilton dies at the age of 90. - was she a Thatcher or a Mandela? byteflush Talk 23:41, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Thatcher/Mandela argument should be ignored. ArionStar (talk) 04:34, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The Thatcher/Mandela threshold exist because that's the level of international notability that you can likely ask a random person on Earth and they will know who they were. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 12:42, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It is called "household argument”, which is avoided. ArionStar (talk) 17:31, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Consensus was that she was influential enough in her field and for her role in the Apollo 11 moon landing. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD. Unsure on whether she qualifies for Blurb status as I have no knowledge of Opera. Gauze ↵ 23:32, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
She is a high profile opera singer. She is one of only seven opera singers to be awarded the Kennedy Center Honor in the history of that prize. Only major artists are given a KCH. The other opera singers given that prize were Marian Anderson, Leontyne Price, Beverly Sills, Grace Bumbry, Justino Díaz, and Renée Fleming. That's it. I would support a blurb.4meter4 (talk) 02:42, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I think this is a bad choice of an award to highlight, given that it's a nation-specific award for contributions to American culture and not an international recognition. It'd be much impossible for any high profile non-American opera singer like Pavarotti(Edit: Pavarotti has one as well.) to ever receive that prize. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 12:58, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support blurb The Thatcher/Mandela standard would mean that only politicians would ever get posted, which would be bad. It isn't a thing. The question here is whether this person is a major enough figure, and if there's anyone on Wikipedia who would know whether someone is a major figure in the field of opera, it's Gerda Arendt. As such, since she clearly believes this woman is important enough to the field for a blurb, I will support one as well. QuicoleJR (talk|edits) 02:59, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support blurb per Gerda's advice Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 03:05, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD - she was so talented but this surely does not warrant a blurb OrdinariusFingius (talk) 04:37, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support blurb. I added an image and added the honors to the blurb. If we see the picture, we know immediately that she received those honors (so could drop that part) and that she was black which was an issue at the time, in the 1960s. This is not just opera, - it meant respect for the art of black performers in general. It is not just U.S.. She was first recognised in Europe, and I saw the name Arroyo in the German press before Thatcher and even Mandela. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:04, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment on blurb Not someone I am aware of and her death has not been reported on where I live. I can understand that that doesn't mean she wasn't well known or transformative etc etc. But the current blurb is not fit for purpose. 263 people have won that award. It by itself is not enough for someone to get a blurb. Like I said, I have zero clue who they are, someone who does needs to actually write a blurb saying why they are notable, instead of just saying they won an American award.PliskorCor (talk) 07:26, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Weak oppose blurb At the moment I am only seeing that she was one of the first black opera singers to rise to fame, and that she's won a local honour that 263 people have been awarded. I would really like to see more than that for a blurb. Black Kite (talk) 07:39, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The honour is for life achievements, and short for the many things she did, singing not only opera but concerts, world premieres in both, internationally so, also earning a PhD in literature and teaching that when young, and teaching voice when older. Of the 263 recipients, how many were formative black women? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

2026 Southeast Asian haze

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Article: 2026 Southeast Asian haze (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)Credits:

Nominator's comments: Multi-national event that has been ongoing for months. Banedon (talk) 10:15, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Oppose Far from being covered nearly daily by news sources. Just being an ongoing event is not sufficient to be in ongoing. Masem (t) 11:26, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose, though I think the broader 2026–2027 El Niño event could qualify. Gauze ↵ 11:41, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
^ Though the sections on July and Europe would have to be improved. @Banedon if you or someone else are willing to improve the article, feel free to propose that article here. Gauze ↵ 14:38, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I agree with Masem this is a poor target for ongoing, but we can and should post a blurb for El Nino. The date of event parameter can be ignored if consensus wants. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:54, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
El Nino is going to have the same problem as it will not have high news coverage on a daily basis. Masem (t) 17:41, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose, Agree with El Niño being possibly good nomination for ongoing, it dominates news cycles because of its real life impact on millions of people. ExclusiveEditor Notify Me! 15:49, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose both on significance and quality (multiple tags on the article). I agree with Gauzecard, that is a much better article for all the weather issues happening in general TNM101 (in solidarity · chat) 12:34, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Masem. I suggest a snow close due to an oppositional consensus forming. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 15:33, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Even if not Ongoing, can it be considered for a blurb? This year the haze is a lot more severe than usual (close to 1997 and 2015 levels). It is making headlines in affected countries with many events cancelled. Sarawak, Johor and Timor-Leste closed all schools. Singapore government is opening haze shelters, giving out free N95 masks and taking legal action against companies responsible for haze. Relations between Indonesia and neighbouring countries are worsening. These do not happen in normal haze years and the El Nino is probably a factor. --~2026-55444-41 (talk) 12:58, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

possibly; i've found coverage from BBC , France 24 , Bloomberg , and Reuters for this recent episode of haze. i'd personally wait a further few days to see if additional coverage comes out >>scourgezoned (it/its) 15:08, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

October 13

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RD: María Asunción Milá

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Article: María Asunción Milá (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Debate
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Catalan anti-death penalty activist, took some time to get the article together. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 07:38, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply


RD: Irene Mathyssen

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Article: Irene Mathyssen (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

 LoganP25 (talk) 00:57, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Helen Branswell

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Article: Helen Branswell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 19:44, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:07, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Lucian Piane

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Article: Lucian Piane (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hollywood Reporter
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Article updated and well sourced. Death announced on this date. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:26, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:29, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Hungary repeals most of the anti-LGBT law

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Article: Hungarian anti-LGBTQ law (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Hungarian National Assembly repeals most of the provisions of an anti-LGBTQ law passed under former prime minister Viktor Orbán (Post)
News source(s): AFP via Euronews
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The Hungarian National Assembly has essentially repealed the infamous Orbanist anti-LGBT law. This law caused major controversy across Europe and did much damage to Hungary's international reputation under Orban. This marks a major milestone in post-Orbanist Hungary and the reversal of his policies. Note that the law is formally a child protection act, with the anti-LGBT stuff put in as a Trojan horse, hence why some outlets may say that only "most" provisions from the law were removed. — Knightoftheswords(talk) 18:02, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Yes, the legacy is well after it's enactment. using different eras to claim it. By that logic, reforming roe, skrmeti, trans sports and many. more scotus rulings should be postred too. Or even india's MGNREGS or aadhar would be worth posting as it costs billions (2025/6 allocation of almost 9b USD). It is not.Psephguru (talk) 13:08, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Lots of things in the news are not worth posting. such as those nominated this month about the french student protests (francfeusa 1euro uk usa 2) or spanish tenant protests ukusaqatar. or how about argentina taking the uk to court over falklands and the reaction? uk1uk1usaqatarargentina canada Psephguru (talk) 13:09, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Um, obviously, but irrelevant to the point I was making. If you look at what I was replying to, it claimed that the story was "a strictly local matter". Which it clearly isn't, if it's being covered so widely. Black Kite (talk) 13:56, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Both the French student protests and the Spanish tenant protests (the latter due to the snap election they triggered) were posted. Chaotic Enby (in solidarity · talk · contribs) 18:13, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
What do you mean by [t]o compare it with the civil rights movement in the US is to understand it backwards? I understand the argument that it's an inapt comparison, but why backwards? GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:21, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The current legislative action in Hungary is aiming to repeal legislation that's only been in place for some years, it's not comparable to a movement to redress decades and centuries of injustices. Yakikaki (talk) 09:44, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Thank you for the clarification. GenevieveDEon (talk) 18:31, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose. We did not post this law when it came into force. Returning to the status quo a few years later means there's less of a story here than when the restrictions came in. New governments often undo actions that were previously taken by their political opponents. Personally I find this a welcome move, but ITN is not for righting great wrongs. Modest Genius talk 09:54, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Support Important news. Elections actually matter. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:29, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose I concur with Modest Genius here as I'm really struggling to see the significance of a return to the status quo on a grander scale. Case in point, the additions as it currently stands (as of writing this) is just four sentences long and that's about the extent of the event itself. While I understand that some people may feel strongly about the topic in general, I struggle to see this event in isolation as significant enough to blurb. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 19:02, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose - the amendment of this Hungarian law to be a regular degular shmegular law is incredibly plain. The article also does not touch on it widely and the blurb is vague and unclear OrdinariusFingius (talk) 04:52, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose on notability The new Hungarian government has been repealing and passing lots of laws recently, I cannot see why this one is any more significant than others. Posting this would create an inherent bias; what about the laws affecting pensioners, the disabled, unemployed, schoolchildren, football fans, civil servants, widowed, Roma, etc. etc.. LGBT groups are just one of many categories of society, how are laws affecting them more notable than those affecting any other section of society? Abcmaxx (talk) 07:06, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Ken Friar

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Article: Ken Friar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Arsenal, Telegraph
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: English Football executive  The C of E God Save the King! (talk) 12:14, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support. Article is of acceptable quality, though could use some minor tweaks to make elements more understandable to non-football fans. Gauze ↵ 09:51, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

October 12

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Marché des Enfants-Rouges fire

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Article: Marché des Enfants-Rouges (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Marché des Enfants-Rouges (pictured), the oldest covered market in Paris, is destroyed by a fire. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated

 ArionStar (talk) 01:05, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply

No, and we should stop trying to spin off articles in order to demonstrate significance. That's the tail wagging the dog. If a separate article were created, I would immediately propose it be merged back into the main article. What's missing here is not about how our data is structured, it's about what it says about the subject matter - and beyond that, whether it even could, potentially, justify the posting of this story to ITN. GenevieveDEon (talk) 20:15, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose per Spencer and Genevieve Gauze ↵ 18:13, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Comment Reading the article, I wondered: why did it burn down? does it have anything to do with the current protests? It doesn't say. When I google it, I find that the cause of the fire is as yet unknown. That's a pretty key issue that the article should state. Hence, it's obviously not ready (and that's beyond the question whether the event is significant). Schwede66 07:12, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

RD: Gary Waddell

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Article: Gary Waddell (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s):
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

 Happily888 (talk) 01:53, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Almost ready For same reasons as QuicoleJR Gauze ↵ 10:11, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD. Article has been improved to an acceptable standard. Filmography could use a few more citations if available but given his relatively minor careers in some series I wouldn't be surprised if no such citations were possible.
I see no reason to deny RD when the rest of the article is well-sourced and well written. Gauze ↵ 18:37, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Rachna Shroff

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Article: Rachna Shroff (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): USA Today
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Oncologist and named chairship holder at the University of Arizona, died at 47 from cancer. Died on Oct 11, but death announced on Oct 12. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 21:38, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. Hi Jish! Gauze ↵ 23:14, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Thanks, Gauze! Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Updated) Front for the Refoundation of the Nation

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Article: Front for the Refoundation of the Nation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Former president of the Democratic Republic of the Congo Joseph Kabila announces the formation of a rebel political-military coalition to overthrow incumbent President Félix Tshisekedi. (Post)
News source(s): AP
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 ArionStar (talk) 16:44, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Shouldn't this be considered a "rival government"? In solidarity, shane (talk to me if you want!) 17:06, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It is more like a violent non-state actor. ArionStar (talk) 17:12, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose we won't post the formation of any new civil war faction. If this faction ended up toppling the current regime then it's definitely notable. NotKringe (talk) 07:10, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I would love to see more articles related to March 23 featured on ITN, but this article very much isn't up to par. It is not representative of the quality writing we should feature if we can. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:34, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose on quality We only really have one paragraph of new content. When we fix that we can discuss merits. Bremps... 18:25, 15 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support now Adequate expansion and seems significant. Bremps... 02:52, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose - the article only has two paragraphs talking about what the history and this group has not done anything yet OrdinariusFingius (talk) 19:01, 17 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Article updated. I think it's pretty exhaustive with what news is public so far, though #Analysis could be extended infinitely as with any #Analysis. If it's notable with current info, well, this is the current info Placeholderer (talk) 19:33, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Posted) RD: Sarah Dambanevana

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Article: Sarah Dambanevana (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: Zimbabwean umpire TNM101 (in solidarity · chat) 08:23, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article has no considerable issues Gauze ↵ 14:34, 14 October 2026 (UTC)reply

(Closed; Posted RD) RD/Blurb: RJ Mitte

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Article: RJ Mitte (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American actor RJ Mitte dies at the age of 34. (Post)
News source(s): Deadline, The Guardian, BBC, DW
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.
Nominator's comments: American actor and producer. ItsShandog (talk) 20:59, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Mitte was a major character in Breaking Bad. Support on notability. Weak oppose on article quality for now. CREditzWiki (yap) | (things i apparently did) 21:23, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I oppose blurb per Masem. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 01:40, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD previous concerns have been addressed. No more issues that I can see. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 13:52, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Mitte was a well-known actor in television shows like Breaking Bad. The article looks suitable enough for RDN. RIP. Admiralable (talk) 21:30, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose even when it comes to a well-known actor or a tragic death, the quality of the article is essential, and this one falls short. Please work on the content of the orange-tagged section and the filmography. _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 21:41, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support blurb - An actor from one of the biggest television series dying is huge, especially by suicide. Militant.Insurgency (talk) 21:49, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment - That claim is only sourced to TMZ, which, per WP:TMZ is a source of debatable reliability, especially when it comes to breaking news about (recently) living people. And being a supporting actor on one well-known show is not really a sufficient argument for a blurb. I would want to see at least multiple leading roles in different series. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:27, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
BBC now reporting he took his own life. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Strong oppose blurb. Not everyone needs a blurb. Mitte was a really good actor, but not one that changed the industry. CREditzWiki (yap) | (things i apparently did) 22:04, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Not nearly ready, the article is littered with inline and section tags. Filmography is mostly unsourced so I would also discourage posting to ITN if someone decides to split it off to "solve" the problem. Also oppose blurb, not seeing how being on a notable show is enough here. orangesclub 🍊 22:16, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Oppose blurb - As noted above, a supporting role in a single major series is not really sufficient significance for a blurb. GenevieveDEon (talk) 23:27, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Update the career section and add citations to the filmography section. CastleFort1 (talk) 00:04, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Death as the main story: For deaths where the cause of death itself is a major story (such as the unexpected death of a prominent figure by [...] suicide, [...]) [...]
Since he was a prominent actor who unexpectedly took his own life, why oppose blurb? ArionStar (talk) 03:31, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Exactly! Militant.Insurgency (talk) 03:33, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Because he's not that prominient, that's why. NotKringe (talk) 04:33, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Very prominent = transformative, major figure or top of his field? ArionStar (talk) 05:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
This dude has been featured as a main character in just one series since Breaking Bad. RIP to him, but he's not even in the D-list level of actors. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:22, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
If an actor who dies by suicide should be in A-list, the criterion is "major figure", not "death as the main story", right? Or a "prominent figure" is not on the same level as a "major figure". ArionStar (talk) 05:47, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Unexpected death, yes. Prominent figure, absolutely not, and this is not even a debate. Both elements ("unexpected death" and "prominent figure") should pass. Therefore, it is not blurbable. Howard the Duck (talk) 06:09, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
"this is not even a debate" Yes it is, that's why editors (including yourself) are debating it. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:17, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
People are not arguing this person is a "prominent figure". People are arguing the circumstances of this as an unexpected death alone should have it posted as a blurb, which is not how we determine WP:ITNRDBLURB. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:20, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Everyone who has supported a blurb I'm sure believes he is a prominent figure. You have extensively debated against this. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:36, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Your argument "His death is being widely reported on - presumably due to it being by suicide", which absolutely doesn't mention of his prominence as an actor, means not "everyone who has supported a blurb" thinks he's prominent. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:46, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Him being prominent is implicit in my ambivalent argument, as I would oppose if he weren't. If someone who was not prominent took their life it wouldn't widely reported (unless more notable like those public self immolation cases). Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 09:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Do you want to turn ITN into a list of people who commit suicide? Although it might not seem like it, suicide isn’t necessarily the ‘main story’; that’s not the point. _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 06:49, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
So why is it mentioned in the criteria? Repeating the question: is the suicide of an A-list actor classified as "death as the main story" or "major figure"? ArionStar (talk) 07:05, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
No _-_Alsor ⭐️⭐️ (talk) 07:09, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
? ArionStar (talk) 07:12, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The relevant clause in WP:ITNRDBLURB is this: "For deaths where the cause of death itself is a major story (such as the unexpected death of a prominent figure by homicide, suicide, or accident)".
The parathentical clause gives us a concrete example: "the unexpected death of a prominent figure". This should be treated together. This person's death truly is unexpected. This person is absolutely not a prominent figure. Both elements, it being an "unexpected death", and the person being a "prominent figure", should be present This means this doesn't fall into this clause. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:13, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
As for the third bullet point, this person is absolutely not a "major figure". Now, the criteria differentiates "prominent figure" and "major figure", and this person is undoubetedly neither. Howard the Duck (talk) 07:15, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
To be more specific: a hypothetical actor who starred in many Hollywood films and won several awards, including an Academy Award for Best Actor, unexpectedly dies by suicide at the age of 40. Which of the two criteria classifies his death blurb? ArionStar (talk) 07:23, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
We already have an example on this, when Kobe Bryant died. Bryant would've probably passed both ("the unexpected death of a prominent figure" absolutely, "major figure" probably). If Bryant died of old age in 2060, we could have a discussion if Bryant falls under "major figure". Howard the Duck (talk) 07:28, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
According to the Bryant's article, "he is often considered one of the greatest basketball players of all time". I was talking about someone like Michael B. Jordan. Anyway, my question was not answered. ArionStar (talk) 08:05, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
For clarification: The hypothetical example has already happened to Kobe Bryant's death. Just like Bryant, the hypothetical actor would have been posted, absolutely due to the unexpected death of a prominent figure, and probably due to that hypothetical actor being a "major figure"... of which Ritte is undoubetedly and absolutely not a "prominent" nor a "major figure".
Google Gemini ranks Bryant as the 8th greatest basketball player of all time. The 7th greatest, Bill Russell (who died due to old age), was posted just on RD. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:12, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
FWIW, save for Russell, the other nine greatest players are still alive, and IMO none would qualify for "major figure" save for Michael Jordan; if LeBron James dies in the next 10 years or so, he'd qualify as an "unexpected death of a prominent figure" Howard the Duck (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
By the way, Russell's death blurb was rejected with arguments like: "it's not like he died in a helicopter crash at age 41" (referring to the Bryant's accident). ArionStar (talk) 08:29, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Yes, because Bryant, just like your hypothetical Hollywood celebrity, may have qualified as an "unexpected death of a prominent figure". I suppose prominent figure < major figure, and the only blurbable basketball players are Jordan and James no matter when or how they die. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:34, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The New York Times's The Athletic topped Jordan and James at number one and two respectively. ArionStar (talk) 08:43, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Eh, Bronsexuals think Lebron should be #1 but I'm not one of them...
Mitte absolutely is not within the top 10000 of actors though. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:48, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Alternately we have Robin Williams which would easy pass both aspects of "death as the story" (as well as being a predominate figure), as as well as on "major figure" alone as a transformative person in the field of comedians. Masem (t) 11:42, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
A good example of a "prominent figure" who would not have been considered a "major figure" under other circumstances but was blurbed for his unexpected death is Charlie Kirk. QuicoleJR (talk|edits) 12:06, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
That's a particularly good example. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 13:45, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I don't see the same level of reporting, or the comments from major political figures. Though I don't know why we were ever blurbig white nationalist podcasters. Nfitz (talk) 15:03, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Comment If "death as the main story" would contribute to a blurb decision, I would expect the cause of death to be included in the blurb. ~2026-54823-65 (talk) 10:44, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I think this discussion got hung up on the parenthetical and forgot the prior clause "where the cause of death itself is a major story." There is zero argument that the cause is a MAJOR story. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:46, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD, Ambivalent Blurb - His death is being widely reported on - presumably due to it being by suicide - makes it ITN. Really depends on where the line is. Salmon Of Ignorance (talk) 08:15, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support. Gauzecard (talk) 09:08, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@Gauzecard please clarify your post, do you support RD, blurb, or both? TNM101 (in solidarity · chat) 09:13, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Sorry, Support both RD and blurb. Gauzecard (talk) 09:18, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
I would also like to point out that RJ Mitte is by far the most viewed wiki article of the day, as an opposition those who think he wasn't prominent enough for a blurb. He's part of the main cast of one of, if not THE, most successful TV series of the 21st century, and unexpectedly died young by suicide. Absolutely notable enough to be featured. Gauzecard (talk) 09:36, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

RJ Mitte is by far the most viewed wiki article of the day

As other ITN users like to point out, page views is an irrelevant metric, Wikipedia is not a commercial website.

part of the main cast of one of, if not THE, most successful TV series of the 21st century

Being part of the main cast of a major TV production does not not automatically make you an international household name such as Thatcher or Mandela.

unexpectedly died young by suicide

As tragic as it is, this is unfortunately too common. CantBelieveINeedAnAccount (talk) 11:20, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Oppose blurb since I don't think we should use "death as a story" as a free pass to blurb any celebrity death that's not of natural causes. NotKringe (talk) 09:30, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support RD Career section has been updated and the filmography section is sourced. RD only as not near blurb level. CastleFort1 (talk) 13:20, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

(Posted) RD: Doug Loft

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Article: Doug Loft (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Gillingham Football Club
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNQUALITY.

Nominator's comments: English Football League player, mainly Port Vale and Gillingham. Death announced just now though stated he died at weekend. Unknown Temptation (talk) 14:48, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Support Article is of sufficient quality for RD. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:09, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
@Chorchapu, I found a Sky Sports profile for his DOB/place of birth and have added it to the article TNM101 (in solidarity · chat) 07:58, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Very good, thank you. Support Chorchapu (talk | edits) 11:24, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Nobel Prize in Economics

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Articles: Robert Hall (economist) (talk · history · tag) and Michael Dean Woodford (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Robert Hall (pictured) and Michael Dean Woodford are awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics for microeconomic foundations of macroeconomic stabilisation. (Post)Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Robert Hall's Both articles orangetagged for sourcing issues. ~2026-54661-07 (talk) 10:20, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply

Oppose - the articles are written strangely OrdinariusFingius (talk) 12:17, 12 October 2026 (UTC)reply
It might actually take days to get Robert's article up to standard OrdinariusFingius (talk) 00:47, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
  • Not ready. Woodford's article is short but not far off being postable, just a small number of tags to address. However Hall's is a mess, with multiple paragraphs having no citations at all. Neither gives a clear explanation of why they won the Nobel Prize, the updates are just one sentence each. I did some copyediting but this nom still needs major work. Modest Genius talk 18:50, 13 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Support Articles improved and Nobel Prizes are highly notable. --~2026-55444-41 (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2026 (UTC)reply
Nah, I don't think so. I've done a bit of a tidy up of the Woodford bio, but too many things remain. There's a "full citation needed" tag. That probably points to his book Interest and prices: Foundations of a theory of monetary policy, but that's me guessing. I'd say this article should use shortened footnotes as that makes it easy to quote from books more than once. Then again, the other citation to that book is missing a page number. Add "clarification needed" and "citation needed" tags and it's all a bit too dodgy. And I haven't even looked at the other bio yet. Schwede66 07:03, 19 October 2026 (UTC)reply

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